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your dvr, and the series hannity. so record it each and every night. do it right now. don't forget. and start your day each weekday morning with fox & friends. thanks for being with us, and we'll see you from washington, special program. i'll behave. thanks for being with us. py davt and now the candidate for texas governor is at war with rush limbaugh and greg abbott. the candidate called out for lying about her past and accused of going after her republican opponent not for his politics, but because he's in a wheelchair. and rush limbaugh is not having any of it. >> this is the woman that made a big, big splash. filibustering an anti-abortion law in texas. so she became an immediate star in the democrat party in texas. and they began pushing her for higher orifice, but the problem
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is, she's a leftist and therefore there is fraud and deceit woven through her life and start your day each weekday discovered now has some issues. it seems when you boil it all down, that wendy davis would be poor if it weren't for men. >> the wendy davis campaign firing back, both at limbaugh and abbott. i think we have them scared, they'll try anything including the typical dirty tricks we're all tired of, and then continued, rush limbaugh in one of his infamous outbursts joined in on the attacks.
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we knew we would face some vicious attacks. greg abbott joins us. >> it's great to have you, so what in the world is going on between you and wendy davis and rush limbaugh? >> it's gotten even more bizarre over the last couple of days. first the underlying story that rush was talking about was actually an article written by a reporter for "the dallas morning news" that i had nothing to do with. but what's happened over the last couple of days is it goes from bizarre to almost laughable. what happened is a group of campaign activists for wendy davis came out and actually mocked the disabled, mocked people who used wheelchairs and as you know, because i have been there on your set, i happened to be in a wheelchair because of an accident that left me needing to use a wheelchair that crushed my
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spine. but then, greta, what happened, it's gone viral over the last couple of days because these so-called truthers have come out, questioning whether or not i really need to use a wheelchair, despite the fact that i have been in one for 30 years now. the reality is there's all this back and forth going on and i think it's a prelude to what's about to happen in this race in texas for the next nine months that matters deeply to your audience. there is a battle for the future of texas and the future of america taking place in this race for governor in texas. >> i'll tell you something that bothers me, i went through all of the personal assaults not from somebody else, but of concern of a person for wendy davis. on websites, it says things like wendy needs us standing with her, stand up with wendy, maybe i'm a little bit sensitive, but
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i think that's code, standing up. i actually think if i were running against someone who was in a wheelchair, i would be mortified if the word standing appeared in any of my literature on the off chance that i might hurt someone who's in a wheelchair or who's disabled. i have seen pictures of people -- do you think they're mocking you with those remarks or do you think it's coincidental? >> the deal is there was this film that was recorded by james o'keefe showing her supporters in a room quite literally laughing at people with disabilities, and we know for a fact that they are mocking those with disabilities and of course, that's unworthy of what we stand for here in texas, as opposed to any kind of superficial
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appearances. >> if i was wendy davis and this whole idea was swirling around me, i would make a statement, i would make a very public statement, i would -- caught on tape or i would even apologize for the inartful use of particular words that may have another meaning or something. but it's too coincidental that i find it in so much of this campaign information about her, that's the problem. >> i think i know why they are doing this, greta and that's because senator davis knows that if she has to run on the issues in the state of texas, that's a loser for her. she supports obama care, i'm against obama care. i'm for energy production, she's for embracing the obama style epa practices in texas. so she's a dead loser on the issues that matter most to texans and so her only hope is to get caught up in all these kind of ridiculous a arguments that are taking place right now. >> it is disheartening when a
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race gets to that point, but anyway, attorney general nice to see you, sir. >> you too, greta, thanks. joining us a panel jason riley from "the wall street journal," a. bmt stoddard. am i being too sensitive of this use of standing in so much literature or is this sort of a covert way to mock greg abbott because he's in a wheelchair? >> i wouldn't put it past some of these activists to go there. but i think it's the davis campaign that's desperate. it's interesting that they're calling abbott desperate. but if you look at the polling, in november, there was a poll that showed abbott 15 points ahead. davis got caught in a lie and it's brought her this national attention, and a lot of americans think that a woman who walked out on young children, it speaks to the character of that person, it's not something you
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see very often in our society and it's not something a lot of people in our society want to see. >> i think women get scrutinized far for intensely than male candidates. when i see what happened to sarah palin and hillary clinton, they're under the microscope. she had a pretty good story before it got fudged. she had a pretty good story, why did she fudge it or lie as her opponents would say? >> to this day, she's not backing from this story and she says she's going to tell this again and again and that the greg abbott campaign has attacked her story. since minute one, their defense has been that it's all greg abbott's fault and they're attacking him. she obviously has augmented or amended her story so it can get a little bit more dramatic, and you're right, it was dramatic enough to begin with. but what she's doing now, if you look at her place hold never this race, she is building a
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political future that she could really screw up by attacking somebody in a wheelchair. it's one thing to run against this guy and run a tough campaign and lose in a state that still isn't purple. but she has a real future of being a star in the party. she could be a senator one day. at this point, there's a stand with rand hash tag for senator paul. but one of the statements was, he's never walked a mile in my shoes. >> i think these phrases, walked a mile in my shoes, stand with our perfect political cliches. i think it would be bonkers to attack your opponent in a wheelchair. who are you going to win over? it doesn't make any sense to me. >> if i use that in a campaign, if i use it, i would say oops, sorry, i didn't mean it that way. >> i think the most important thing to me is this is motive? is it intentional? particularly a woman did this
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long filibuster, stand with rachbd, stand which randy, so the motive to me, it doesn't make sense logically. as a political proposition, it's being talked about on television, the allegations have been leveled. would it do her any harm to say look, i can see how some would misinterpret it. but we'll use different language and go right back into the issues. >> i would never in a million years would i have done that, i feel terrible about that, it never occurred to me. >> okay, yeah. that would be fine too. i really don't think it makes any sense to think that this was -- the political gain is impossible to imagine. what voters are you going to win over? >> that's because she hasn't done anything yet. >> panel thanks, we're going to be back with you shortly. and sthalgt ahead, president obama is breaking big promises.
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citizens are. >> i'm not going to wait. i've got a pen and i've got a phone and that's all i need. >> obama's view of -- not agreeing with them and peacefully co-existing with them. it's eliminating them. >> there's not a lot he can do, that's why you hear him talking about pens and telephones because he can't get anything through congress. >> the president should absolutely use the powers available to him and the unique authority that the office provides. >> executive orders, also the phone, what he can do is he can pick up the phone, bring together american citizens. >> he says oh, well it's hard to get congress to do anything, yeah, welcome to the real world. >> change, well, not exactly change, it's another big broken promise from president obama, the president promising to change washington when he moved into the white house. but after failing at that, the president is now trying to bypass the legislative branch of government and just sign executive orders to get what he
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wants. charles krauthammer joins us. charles, what's this business about he's going to change washington and all this gridlock business. >> he says he's going to change article 1 of the constitution that says that -- this is how they do it in venezuela, cuba and other places. he shows it on twitter and he says i will rule from the pen. what makes it sort of pathetic is that it sounds like a tough threat and it is unconstitutional. it's not how you ought to beat the president of the united states. but in the end, there's very little he can do. what's interesting is he said the same thing in 2011, this was a speech he gave in nevada. it was announced by the white house as the we can't wait tour. and it was one statement after another, i'm not going to wait for congress to act, i will do x, y and z. in the end it didn't work, because in the end, the only
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things a president can do with a pen, executive orders, are fairly limited. with one exception, that's epa and using the epa to shut down entire industries. that power. >> the memo that's gotten out, "the washington post" reported on when he said he's not going to go to congress, but he's going to go and use his pen. that when you campaign on i'm going to change washington, that means i give up. that's not what you expect a leader to do, you expect a leader to carry out those promises. the second thing, so many democrats are making cracks at governor christie for being a bully. now the president says he's going to use his pen and by pass congress. they hate the ads that governor christie has when he says he going to do that. >> he was unable to do what he thought he could do and he couldn't even do what other
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presidents want to do which he thought he could trangs sent and make it a more transition harmonious, no red state, no blue states america. he can't even do what normal presidents have done, what clinton did, what reagan did which is to work with the other side. >> i think clinton actually liked members of congress, even the ones he didn't agree with. >> he liked politics. >> i don't think that president obama wants to spend any time with any politician of any party. he played golf with john boehner twice. >> you get the impression he chose the wrong field. >> or he wanted to run to the white house so he wouldn't have to be around colleagues. >> reagan and tip o'neill worked out the most important piece of economic legislation, tax reform, and they were polar
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opposites ide idealogically. it would take a way the loophole that the rich has. he has. touched it in five years. >> and it would be so fun to change the tax code to make it fair and get rid of the loopholes of the extra special. anyway, i'm taking the last word on that, charles. >> you got it. senator ted cruz is demanding an apology and he wants from president obama. and frightening new information from americans on food stamp, yes, more people are on them, but that's not even the most scary part. on the record investigates coming up and you can do it by coming up and you can do it by hashing it out, go your eyes really are unique. in fact, they depend on a unique set of nutrients. [ male announcer ] that's why there's ocuvite thelp protect youeye health. as you, your eyes can lose vital nuients. ocuvite helps replenish key eye nutrients. ocuvite is a vitamin made just for your eyes
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senator ted cruz is demanding an apology from president obama. he wa he. >> so first, what are the odds it's going to happen? >> unfortunately the odds are not high. this president has not taken responsibility for the harms that have come from his policies. >> he did apologize on an interview last november, he said he regretted that as a consequence of obama care. it's not like he's been totally silent. >> that's true, but an apology is empty, if there's no action after it. as you know, i've got two little girls at home. they're 5 and 3. if the 5-year-old is punching her little sister and saying i'm sorry every time she punches her, that's not a very meaningful apology. every parent knows that if
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you're going to apologize, stop doing what you're doing and make it right. >> i assume that tomorrow night, as every president, he wants to make it look spectacular, the nation is strong, and all these great things are happening. so why would he want to sort of dig up the dirty laundry? >> people are still hurting, when i go home to texas, which i try to do every week. i meet texans who come up to me and say my health insurance was cancelled because of obama care. i'm scared, my kids are sick, i don't know what to do. >> aren't they in the exchange with subsidies? >> some are, but some are not. all together we have had over 5 million people whose insurance has been cancelled because of obama care. the obama administration estimates that over 3 million people have gotten insurance. but mckenzie and company say of those 3 million, only 11% didn't have insurance so. think about this, to extend insurance to 330,000 people who didn't have it, president obama
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and his administration has screwed up the health care for potentially tens or hundreds of millions of americans. it doesn't make any sense. >> there were 48 million estimated who didn't have insurance before obama care. and there is some question, why would you disrupt 300 million people for the sake of 48 million, instead of designing something to satisfy the 48 million. that might have been something a little bit more simpler. was that even thought about? >> obama care doesn't come close to providing health insurance for those 48 million people. the estimates are 330,000 people. it would have been cheaper to send a check to each of those people for a million bucks, that would have cost a sixth as much as obama care and it wouldn't have messed up everybody's insurance. >> when we get to march 31st and the enrollment period, do we
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look and see if all the mill less than yals are -- >> there are a series of bleaking points, the first biggest hit came from the 5 million plus people whose insurance was cancelled. the second that we're seeing right now are premium spikes and premium increases. young people are getting hammered by obama care, and that is why it's becoming so profoundly unpopular among young people. the polling shows that young people have -- for a 26-year-old man in the individual market, his premiums have gone up roughly 70%. that's a lot of money for somebody that's young, that's starting a family, to have premiums spike. but next spring, premiums are going to jump even more, more and more people are going to discover they can't see their doctors, and the biggest shoe to drop, i cannot tell you how many
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heads of hr at big companies have said they're just getting ready to dump everyone in their large group of insurance on to the exchanges. that's where you have the risk of tens of millions losing their health insurance. >> do you think the president is worried? do you think he's nervous or do you think he's confident that this is the end all, with a few little repairs along the way? >> greta, the most troubling thing about the obama presidency, has been a willingness to abuse power and allow the ends to justify the means. so i don't see any action on the president to correct the fact of over 5 million people have lost their health insurance and the pattern over and over again is just to double down, tomorrow on the yuanston, he apparently is going announce that he's side stepping congress even more and force his agenda -- that's not the way our constitution works,
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replacement plan. some very powerful senators say they are ready to replace the affordable care act. to how would care be any better than obama care? let's ask the three architects of this proposal. first senator coburn, i should tell you right the the get-go that the white house is rather addition missive. jay carney says it's just another repeal proposal. >> not true. if you look at obama care right now, you have a trillion dollars in taxes, almost a trillion dollars stolen out of medicare and most people are getting less choice with higher deductibles and les access. and so it's not a repeal. it's a plan that actually empowers people to make choices rather than government. allows states to be prime mall
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in terms of what we are going to do. >> president obama is hoping that all the millenniaals are going to -- >> he's found that that doesn't work and under our plan, we actually will provide affordable tax credits so the people can actually buy their own insurance. and we actually will reform medicaid. it's a disastrous program right now, but we can reform it so that it will work. we will have up to 300% of poverty to be able to get the subsidies they need to be able to purchase their own insurance. and frankly we have a much better format and approach to solving these programs economically and from a health care standpoint as well. we can do something about medical liability, our medical malpractice. in other words we would do something about the unnecessary
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defense of medicine that basically runs the costs up dramatically to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars every year. i used to be a medical liability defense lawyer, and we could tell doctors, you just better have every possible thing you can in your records so you can show that you went way beyond the standard of practice in the community. >> senator byrd, 48 million people are uninsured which is one of the reasons president obama wanted obama care. under your plan, would those 48 million who wouldn't have coverage under obama care get cover raj? >> everybody estimates that under the president's plan, there's 36 million, when it's fully implemented uninsured. and the fact is we address the cost of health care, we go in and start a process through reforms where we provide all the assurances, we make sure that individuals 26-year-olds can stay on their parents insurance. we guarantee the renewability of
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insurance and we mandate that insurers can't create a lifetime limit. but we also go underneath and we begin to reform the health care system that we had in this country. the three of us agree, going back to what we had was unsustainable. what we have tried to do is look and say how can we make health care coverage more affordable for every american regardless of whether they receive a tax credit or just going into the individual market. >> the white house is dismissive of it and i agree senator reid is not too agreeable. how do you get this even to be on the table to be focused or even be looked at to see whether it's a viable and good plan? >> it's going to be a viable and great plan. i have got a lot of years in medicine, a lot of years in business, and we didn't get an opportunity during the debate on
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health care to vote on the patient's choice act of which a large component of this is, it's not the same, it's different in a lot of ways because we have seen problems. i expect them to be dismissive. we're not going to get rid of obama care until president obama is no longer president. so what we have to have is what are the solution to the real problems that were both in the health care segment of our economy before and have been made worse by obama care. the whole idea of this plan is to give affordable access care where you run the health care and your state makes decisions and it's not mandated what you'll buy, when you'll buy it, there's no employer mandate, there's no individual mandate. you get the option and if you want to take this credit you k. >> we'll wait and see whether or not senator harry reid was even a little bit interested in talking to you. always nice to see all three of you gentlemen. >> coming up, this is a disgrace, a world war ii veteran has to fight his own town now just to keep the store he's run
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record for just a minute. i missed the grammys last night. but many are outraged about that steamy performance by beyonce and jay-z. my thoughts? wh expect. it's hollywood and typical hollywood awards shows. the performers are all trying to outdo themselves to create buzz and buzz means money. artists who stun and outraged, they're rewarded by the many who will still watch, still buy all their records and movies and maybe buy more because there is buzz about them. hollywood is not in the decency business, in case you haven't noticed. they're in the money business. and don't forget, as much as you might not like to hear this, singing and dancing is a first amendment right. while some may say, the grammys is different, that is broadcast and not cable and prime time.
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that law in hollywood was lost a long time ago. if you don't like it, try national geographic channel or my favorite, set up serious reporting for on the reported so you can catch up on old episodes of -- and if enough people do that, hollywood will change. that's my off the record comment tonight. if you have an important issue you think i should take off the record, go to gretawire.com and tell us about it. and a world war 2 veteran is fighting a new battle right in his town. frank whitney has owned a store in a new york resort town. but now local officials are doing the unthinkable, they're trying to seize it. give jenkins reports from fire island. >> right after hurricane sandy, this store began its repairs, but the repairs were stopped by the village. >> reporter: scott whitney is the son of world war ii veteran
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frank whitney who's fighting to keep his store in the village. >> they're making demands on us as to what we have to do in order to repair and our contention is they're holding us to a completely different standard than everyone else. we're suspicious that what's really going on is that they want this property, it's considered a very critical property to be owned by the villa village. the village actually owns most of the property downtown, this is a privately owned property. it's the only building in the entire village that was stopped from repairing. >> reporter: imminent domain is the power through which government is seize property for government use. >> this building was damaged by the storm t floodwaters came through this village, we had four feet of salt water throughout the center of our village. the best option for us that this gets repaired by the whitneys in a compliant manner.
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we have offered to bring in independent code inspectors who have already reviewed this for us to confirm that everything we're asking for is legitimate and required and then work with them to put a plan together. unfortunately, that process has not happened. we have not gotten in that location and it hasn't met those requirements. >> but it's putting pressure on -- >> i just think that in this case, this particular government, small as it is, overstepped its mandate, because of either giving us the permit and let us go to work or pay us a reasonable sum to be finished with it. but what they tried to do was having it both ways. they tried to denigrate the property to make it less valuable. but that's something government shouldn't do. >> for one of frank's sons, it
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puts his livelihood at stake. >> chip, you run this grocery here, how has this impact you? >> i'm 57 years old and it's hard to find work. it's very hard, i have been doing this for 26 years. >> it's a shame that the village hasn't worked more with me to get the store back up and running. that's what hurts the most. >> reporter: the village says it's just trying to get the -- >> the first section is that the mayor and the village is trying to take this property, why iminnocent domain? why here. >> because that was the last place to go in order to get a market property back up and running in a safe and compliant manner. it's not our desired outcome, but as opposed to leaving it in a derelict condition, that was the only option that was left to us. >> an appellate court in brooklyn will determine if the
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village's reasoning for imminent domain has been met. >> i don't think that's the way that a small village should treat my father who's an 88-year-old world war ii veteran who's been working on fire island for 45 years. >> i don't want to reflect badly on that little village, it's a wonderful little village. >> reporter: regardless of the outcome, it's already taking a toll on one of america's greatest treasures. >> it's been a difficult time. like i say, i wish it was over. now get ready to speed raze your way through the news, a heat emergency hitting the northeast. so far much of the country on track for the coldest winter since the late 1970s and that's causing propane problems. there's a shortage of propane across america and people who use it to heat their homes or
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cook are finding pumped up prices are leaving them in the cold. and now even the deep south is preparing for a snow and ice storm starting tomorrow. 600 passengers and crew getting sick on a royal caribbean cruise ship. it's a norovirus outbreak on the explorer of the seas. the ship was set to make several stops in the caribbean, but now it's on its way back to port in new jersey. congressman raydel's resignation has been -- speaker john boehner and just a short time ago, at 6:00 p.m. eastern, it became official. thanks for being with us, we'll see you all here tomorrow night right here at 7:00 p.m. eastern. if you're just getting tuned in to bill o'reilly. set a series recording of on the record. and another thing i want you to do, go to gretawire.com, should
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president obama apologize to americans who lost their health insurance? vote in our poll. and tomorrow night, a very special on the record from the capitol. tonight on "red eye." >> coming up on "red eye." is kenny g the best artist of all time? we'll show you what length some people are going to to be the firs in line to buy new albums. plus how much credit is the white house giving the british boy band one direction for reviving the economy? >> they are the reason why we have climbed out of the worst recession since the great depression. >> and finally snow men. super cool or super creepy? our panel debates in a can't miss four-hour debate next. none of these stories on "red eye" tonight. >> now let's welcome our guest. she is so hot she gives rugs lori rothman burns. i am here
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